It is born out of inbreeding. So glad you came along. Love my buddy to death so thanks for any info. doberman pinscher white background. Currently I have two of my own Dobermans and one foster I am taking care of until she is healthy enough to be placed in a forever home. Do you live in America? albino from parents with no albinistic mutations), but they are very, VERY rare. People who breed Albino dobermans only care about the money and not the breed, they sell them for more money saying they are rare. Also if you purchase an albino doberman you are getting ripped off. His temperament is exceptional. How about do some more research , I am from Kenya and I have a black with brown colour dobberman its healthy and good.but am asking if I do feed it at night is recommended for guard dogs secondly should I shorten the tail or leave it with its tailthankyou. I have previously had 4dobies and one of them was born deformed. She said they take used cooking oil and add it to the dog food in their factories. Everyone that meets him, wants him. At age 10 Emma had a severe stroke. Breeding any dogs should be outlawed in my opinion the shelters are crowded with purebreds and mutts alike. I rescued a Fawn from a humane society in Washington State in 2011. do you think white tigers should continue to be bred, as well? Not breeding them is a ridiculous notion as purebreds do have their uses (hounds are bred for hunting and they excel at it. where is the sense of having love? Although she is such a beauty and she has no health problems I will not be breeding her. My uncle was swept up in the trend 13 years ago and paid twice the money when he adopted a white doberman. Get yourself another color. Lol He loves everyone, and everyone who meets him falls in love. It was so horrible, but she was always such a love bug and anyone that met her loved and adored our dobe. I think some people have developed an absurd bias. I have one too (rescue). only bred to look americanized for the show.. And nothing like what they wer origanly bred for. Probably not the answer you wanted, but I know DVMs who will not breed once a year if they cannot come as close as possible to not reproducing these health issues to further weaken the breed. Blue was a Beautiful dog. If the breeder wants to limit the White, just do add a no breed clause to a buyer contract and have the buyer sign,but dont dispose of that puppy, Im sure theres a great home out there for him or her. Only Shebah. Wouldnt it be nice if we could guarantee that the breeders of the white Dobermans had as much integrity as you think your daughter has ? you are forgetting one thing Ive come into contact with a white before and I fell in love but I dont really know where to look. All dogs are subject to health problems, purebreds more so. Several different types available. We are in touch with rescues, petfinder and have advertised. I have the white, she kept the fawn and sold the other pups. When you visit a breeder, ask to see the mother and father to judge their friendliness and get references. Check it out! There are a lot of falsehoods on the internet about so-called albino dog or whites a white which is a cream white mix which is what theyre referring to as Z Factor are not albino, i have one female puppy white black and brown colors mix i have one doute she is original daberman and fake. I am looking for a blue and tan puppy to join her but the only litter I have found seems to be for a lady that has v negative feedback from. How you can psychologically mix dog breeding with human color and racism is not just astounding and blithering in its ignorance, it is also alarming. My mother is disabled as well with mobility issues which I feel the dog is good for as well for her. Dobermans are beautifulproudnobleintelligent dogs and deserve the best we can give themand breeding them to be sickly and have health problems is NOT the best we can give them. If an animal lacks pigment in one part of his body (like fur) and not in another (like eyes) its attributed to another genetic abnormality. I adopted a white Doberman who is 5 year old and I also own a Black and Tan Doberman I brought home form a wonderful breeder. So there you have it! The temperament for these dogs are great. Hello. You can easily make this yourself or call a few vets for other suggestions. I have raised Black and Tan, Red and Tan, Blue and Cream and Tan. If you are uninformed pls get informed before speaking on the subject. It isnt expensive (~ $25 for puppy, young and adult and ~ $50 for seniors per month ). Just curious, I have a 1 year old purebred blue Doberman and he has blue eyes. Sara : there is nothing wrong with white dobermans. How fawns and the albinos are getting so popular idk because they are the ones with all the health problems. It should help you out. Keep in mind, we are arguing over a DOG. Both benign. Its common knowledge that these white Dobermans tend to have health problems and behavioral issues. Ive had dobies of every color except fawn. So sad I was really looking forward to puppies , You are unselfish. Only then will its fullest potential be discovered and documented. Steve, However, they are a bit of a roulette because the negative qualities of their parental breeds are also there. White Doberman Punchers have NEVER been proven to be albino, and yes, white dobes can be show dogs in some countries, and, yes, there have been white champions, regardless of temperament. We mainly have had Black, Red and Isabella colored Dobermans, although we have a 3 year old White bitch named Saint. Dilutes are a financial commitment that some people just dont realize, and thats why you see so many on Craigslist and rescue groups. Im now looking for another Doberman. At age 13, which is several years older than so many who die of SDS, he is looking quite good and still out running about a mile a day! I know white dobermann breeders in France they are on FB, Dobermann blanc de France et Les Diamants de la nuit, I have a mix of Minature Pincher and a West Highland Terrier as well as the German Shepherd. They are beautiful dogs and behave just as well as any other dobe. Sorry Evilboo all of that was intended for TexasJul. Thank You!! I have a fantastic WHITE Doberman! She is the best dog that I have ever owned. The younger the age at neutering, the earlier the age at diagnosis with mast cell cancer, cancers other than mast cell, hemangiosarcoma, lymphoma, all cancers combined, a behavioral disorder, or fear of storms. Hence they are not a true Albino. She has the dobie markingsjust two different colors of cream. So if you breed your dog again, you have 25% chance of every pup to be white, and 75% chance to black. We love all dobes but to breed a dog who has health issues- related to colour or not, is cruel. Do you know the health issues and aggression that can come without spaying or neutering? My name is nick. RE: SARAH- please you are uninformed. All domesticated animals including all dog breeds are a bit of an abomination or reconstruction of natural selection and I feel that we need to be wary of pontificating or judging the significant efforts of those who believe in breeding white Dobermans. White Dobermans today descend from Sheba, who was inbred to create white Dobermans. Is currently located in NY. NO DOG should be put outside like lawn furniture, but a Dobeman willl make your life hell if you think you can do that. A post shared by Mazikeen Zenobia (@mazetherotterman_) 2. I have been a little crazy since as he is like yours, just as friendly and loving as can be and a little velcro. It almost kllled my dog and I was not told what to watch out for..Needless to say she and my Mom take the same pill, lucky for me. They are NOT a dog you can put out in the backyard and ignore. with that. Dogs should look something like a wolf, a dingo, or a fox if they had not been reconfigured by humans. Do you know which Doberman colors are recognized or restricted by kennel clubs? Having been familiar with SDS or sudden death syndrome, and as a researcher I have been excited to have figured out a potential solution to SDS. I have seen black people and babies with rickets (legs bend). As a small comment, white is beautiful, in addition to being a soul and as we want them, they accept us as we are. I attained a blue Dobie at 1 year of age from a rescue and shes in great health and has no skin issues and is very muscular, agile and athletic as other Dobermans and also very protective of her family including other household pets. The answer, Anything and everything! From cleaning solvents to toxins such as rat poison. This color shouldnt be breed. Thats the main goal of AKC, UKC, CKC and any other kennel clubs. He rescued us just as much as we rescued him. I see what is the problem with the white-ish doberman. You are not helping, you are hurting, period. Blue eyes is actually a lack of pigment in the iris. She has 2 small dogs as pack-mates, so she doesnt quite realize her own strength or size. The blue and white are both puppies from are black and tans it is in there back ground so what are you trying to say these puppies don`t deserve to live what kind of animal lover are you You know who you are. He has no signs of cancer. Knee jerks reactions, using religion as justification (cmon get real), using only your particular dog as an example for all, and many other ridiculous defences, only hurts the DOGS in the long-term. Their nose is pink usually and skin. Does anyone have any suggestions on what to feed her? This is classic snobbery! I knew he would naturally. This is natural. In the begining there was only adam and eve..they had kids one died so how do we have billions of people if we did not practice inceset at one time should we have stopped because one of us had 6 fingers, lighter skin, stomach problems, or even had multiple births? Marge I believe those batteries that have been discovered from days of old, using vinegar, were possibly used for making colloidal silver! Always liked working dogs because they are bread to do jobs not looks I could go on to list the breeds that have been ruined but any dog lover knows what they are Thanks for reading about my memories of well loved four legged friends! Its been recorded that one champion white even bit his judge prior to winning. I would love to help you we had our Coco a red Dobe from 8 wks till 13 yrs when she had a heart attack. meaning dont split hairs over whether or not its albino , or white when making a decision of to breed or not to breed . My question is how long ago did you have your dobes skin cancer removed, Im just looking for some possitive info as I cant afford the suggested treatment and we are just going to ride it out as long as we can and hoping for the best. i have owned 4 of the 5 colors ( i have never owned a red) and i have to say that the whites and the blacks were the healthiest and had minimal problems. As far as loving them as a dog, absolutely. Hey I do not breed dobermans but my neighbor does I have researched the breed to the highest of levels cause I could not understand y she was hoping for a blue or white Well we both share 7 acers and have one fence around the entire property I breed wolf hybrids been doing so since I moved she breeds dobies and her brother breeds pitbulls. I will do all that I can to keep her healthy and enjoy her life, but I encourage anyone who wants to get a Doberman to do the research not on just the breed but also the breeders. Hey, I was wondering if they had insurance for pets, where could I purchase the insurance? It aggravates me when people say things like that about breeding for the WRONG reasons! As an answer to Sara and all others who think white is cool and dont believe websites like http://dpca.org/albino/albino_about.htm I met a lady who worked in their processing plant and she told me what I was curious about in terms of what is in the dog food. I wonder if this is what happens with dobermanns. So whats the right dog food or treats to feed them. Yeaaaah. I am not sure about anyone else. Its to sad. In the meanwhile we put aside all our reservation about getting a puppy. English bulldog. 23+ Doberman Haversham Dog Hi animal lovers, I see you are looking for 23+ Doberman Haversham Dog. This will continue to happen due to the affluent culture and the preferences of people. My heart goes out to you and all who have had to deal with the lost of a good dog. You people are a bunch of hypocrites. We figured out how to get him to do what I wanted but it took some work. She bathed the dog in it and used in spray bottle as insect deterrent. The dogs in this are really beautiful!!!!!!!!!!!! Orginal and natural skin is brown due to melanin which attracts the sun and creates vitamin d and makes us stronger. Whatever color your Doberman is, remember they have short hair and are sensitive to cold temperatures. Shelter dogs are not for everyone. Most dogs in shelters are Mutt dogs. Mom kept saying that she didnt like Dobermans and Chantelle would sit next to her and lay her head on her lap looking up at her. And I say albino because it is not a colour it is the complete opposite a lack of colour I would never entertain a breeder of the albino Doberman and those breeders who describe the dog as rare and desirable are idiots that have no interest in healthy dogs just lining their pockets it makes me feel sick. This can lead to aggressive behavior, like fear biting. Please, its been said before in this thread you are online use google, educate yourself about this subject!!! I use to breed Dobermans. 7 yrs later, my baby girl is still a goofball! The White DobermanPinscher came from inbreeding and is considered apartial albino Doberman. But dont worry cuz the american doberman is not alone. Read all you can about dog behaviour to understand things from their point of view. There has been NO testing done that would prove or disprove the albino theory. I think we have done the research as well as this page itself has condoned the breeding of white Dobermans. Commentdocument.getElementById("comment").setAttribute( "id", "a895c028ab54c6c138d816584ff46fb6" );document.getElementById("c0a37e25a6").setAttribute( "id", "comment" ); Hi, Im Jaki the creator of Dobermans Den. Her mother Aries-color-Black/Rust. My red/rust has a bladder issue and is on daily Proin. The only reason I am writing is because as I was reading through I found one message that said get rid of the whites no time for bad dogs writen by miller! Regardless of anything else it is a well documented FACT that these white Dobermans are predestined for medical and/or mental issues at a shockingly high percentage compared to all other colors. At the time I took the white because I knew that she would be spayed because Im not in the dog breeding business. Ive been studying this breed for about 6 years now and I continue to learn so much. I was not aware of the health problems white dobermans have and if i had I may not have gotten him. Not legal there. common sense be damned. The most common Doberman hair color is obviously the black and tan, sometimes called black and rust, or black and brown. See more ideas about rian dawson, all about time, all time low. I am concerned that our rather flawed, poorly evidence-based opinions may rob us of the pleasure of some lovely animals. Its a domesticated animal (we) as responsible adults are to look out for their well being, And yes I encourage this because youre saving the animal giving it a healthier life. if my husband has alergies and so do i should we not have children? Weve got nothing but good to say about him. Most of the year the environment is white white white LOL! I love the comments about the White Dobe and that they have great personalities and temperament and frankly believe that you could have a little different personality from a White Dobe just because of the color (I have my flame suit on so let the comments rip). I have a beautiful loving white dobe, he is very healthy and weights in at a nice 92 his skin is good, i hav a red doberman right now and i luv her to death and once one of my dogs die we might get a blue doberman do u hav any suggestions otherwise, People If someone wants a white dog there are better white breeds to choose from. Blue Dobermans and fawn Dobermans are both color dilutions. It is proven that the higher percentile have major health issues and a lot of the shows dont accept them for reasons! Thank you , so sad anyone would want to encourage breeding white Dobermans, knowing the health problems they will have to endure. Please contact me. First problem: MoZart lost ALL of his hair/coat from the neck to his hind quarters. All of our Dobes have been raised and exposed to children (many small children as part of their socialization) and have done great. I would never say put the white dobermans down, they ARE dogs, but to purposely keep trying to breed white dobies and keep the color going is completely irresponsible. They are no Documented facts that say white Dobermans have more health problems than any other color Doberman. As for good foods there are so many nowadays. Theyre not the ones that have the problem I think you need to seek some help. her eyes are sensitive to the sun and she does seem to have a somewhat sensitive stomach. While he lived to be 9, had I chosen to breed him, and I considered it prior to knowing he was a carrier, I would have done an injustice to the pups and everyone who acquired one. I am looking for a PPD because I have a medical condition in which I feel I will need one in the future for my son and myself after a recent experience I have had. 4) Pay better attention to grammar, spelling and typing skills. First, As I initially stated, it hasnt been that long ago that blue and fawn puppies were culled. I passed my Fawn off as a Weimie for most of his 13 years. However, when we look at the longevity of, say, albino rabbits, guinea pigs, pigeons and budgies, we can realistically say that being white in itself is not fatal to a species. If you believe that this is not a good practice, then maybe you should educate yourself about WHY there is a reason it is frowned upon. I wasnt training him, he was trying to train me! Again, ethical breeders who care about Dobermans wont breed these dogs. We had already fell in love with her, and she is a part of our family so we of course began treatment. I can always refer you to my breeder. I do agree, I actually own a beautiful WL black german shepherd from east Germany. They interbred the two and then bred the offspring (for several generations, I might add) and out popped what is in my opinion the finest canine ever produced. Shepherds are excellent at herding, which is their purpose. No i dont want a dog that has temper problems but i like the varitiey of colors. You obviously are quite the Bible Scholar, huh? Dobermanns where breed from Weimaraners As far as someone disposing of a White Dobe, that wrong. We ate in Huntsville, AL. Reading through all these comments. Reginald, He's A Purebred Doberman Haversham | I love Harry Potter, books,supernatural,etc , WHEN THE TRASH BE SENDING. He has never met a stranger and loves kids. The term Doberman and Doberman Pinscher refer to the same breed of dog. What does it matter what colour a dog is. plus i have always wanted a bigger dog that i could run around and play with in the back yard. Has anyone experienced the skin issues? My daughters female black and brown, and male black and brown got together cause one of the children let them make outside when the female was outside. For some dogs, like those who were abused to the point of retched temperament, putting them to sleep in a shelter is better than forcing it to live in fear or possibly putting you or your loved ones in danger due its unpredictable nature. Hello Im getting an all black Doberman in about a week and I keep reading all these negative things about them. lol. Think I talked to Tabetha. possibly the most frustrating comment thread in history all I have to say is this first the dogs that exist, Im sure theyre all wonderful. Brace yerselves for it ALMOST ALL PUREBRED DOGS ARE THE PRODUCT OF INBREEDING! That means a very shallow gene pool to start out with. What about the thyroid condition that Dobes get? He will be 4 in September. I dont agree with breeding whites at all. Stop preaching your personal opinions, it isnt a crime to buy a purebred dog. I got my last two from Doberman Rescue League which is in south florida and my first from Doberman Rescue of the Triad which is in North Carolina. I will say that a lot of white ones end up out there for rescue or adoption. He distinctly said Sheba was an albino, the original one. One only has to neuter or spay them to keep a breeding from takin place. Do NOT watch it with young children!!!! Monitor these things, supervise and dedicate time to them as a member of your home. The problem happens when inexperienced people dont invest in the tests that are necessary to find out which individuals gene pool, either should or should not be crossed, with another. It stands on its pads and is not usually heavy-footed. I think all dobermans are very beautiful and after I learned they come in so many colors I became very interested in the melanistic black. If you were any better you wouldnt be breeding dobermans and adding to the unwanted masses of dogs in shelters you would be adopting and careing for the dogs already here. Truly man & women best friend. their temperament/health/intelligence is a little more than average of all the dobes i have owned. They are very pretty, but I think now Im having a few doubts.) Over crowding in shelters is a human made problem that will not end in YOUR life time, so your whining is pathetic and futile. To the person who spreads semi thought out racist comments you are comparing white Dobermans to insecure white people concluding with white people are unhealthy because of their skin being pale.Specifically that white people suffer from osteoporosis because they cannot go in the sun. Propaganda to scare people from breeding, even owning, a White or Cream Colored Dobe. Please do not spay or neuter your pets. Its because of people like you who feel its not worth it to neuter them, therefor they keep reproducing . In my opinion, not a good idea. She even feeds her dogs food she makes herself, it looks yummy! .. if there is something wrong with it, its not because of its color. Not every one can own a Doberman , as we know dogs run in packs and there is always a leader of the pack , so you have to be the leader of your pack. AKC registered the first oneit is a purebredbut it is not allowed to showjust because it says AKC doesnt make it right. i am wanting to buy a doberman puppy as a pet because i have heard how intellegent and easily trainable they are. yes the whites are known to have health issues, the blacks seem ok and are rarely found anyway. Our dobbies are as a people some more healthy, some less. And all anyone can do is take the best care of their animal as possible. Bottom lineits irresponsible to propagate unhealthy breeding. While we did purchase her from a breeder (or so we thought) we have come to find out that she is very sick. Puppies are easy to find, but not so adult Dobermans. All responsible breeders should have the goal of breeding to better the breed, not just to breed because you like the color! We have a Fawn Dobie that descended from a white dobie. So my wonderful Doberman has been on a very light dose of potassium. A Black and Rust pedigree Doberman Pinscher has the same chance of being a carrier of poor, breed-specific, genes as the White. They wanted nothing to do with that! Puts up with everything my kids do to him, he is protective, big and strong, and gives our family unconditional love. Can a fawn doberman have a pink nose or do all of them have brown nose? And humans are an inbred species wether or not you believe the principalities of Christianity. What the people have a problem with. Cause I promise not everyone loves your children. I have to say I actually own 4 white Dobes and 4 white factored Dobermans. I love him so much. Hope everythings going well now. This matter was also of large debate with the German shepherd, which was later accepted. I have 2 dobes, black and red, and Isabella. Today an incredibly regal and majestic dog. If the horse has only one gene, it makes the underlying colour paler. Their mothers are forced to have what they dont want then toss then aside because none of the do gooders want them so they get fostered. Ive had German lineage Black and Rust Dobes (larger more stout and a bit calmer), American bred Black and Tan and my favorite an American Red (brown and rust). I so miss her, no pup will ever replace her in my heart. So get that idea out your head and just research the dog you get before you get it or ask ur local vet. I have taken in many dogs that were not purebred and wonderful animals. I feel he needs a chance at a much better life!!! Where is the Tennessee rescue.. Im not on Facebook but would like to get in touch with them. Not all white Dobermans are problematic and they can still make great companions. Some years ago, I met a doberman who was glossy black with bright yellow where you would normally see the rust color. WHY are people so concerned with LOOKS and COLOR, there are already many different colors of dobies and if you breed white ones or want white ones YOU ARE A DISGRACE. They always will! Adding to the confusion, the color names also vary around the world, some Europeans call red Dobermans, brown. Actually, any real research will show that white Dobermans are not albino. If I was going to go to the beach with her, I have her doggles and sun screen just like I would for my blond haired, blue eyed kids. Related searches: miniature doberman pinscher. I had a red dobie for 13 yearsmy white is no differentno added health issues. What Rampant Materialism Looks Like, and What It Costs. White tigers are very beautiful creatures as are white lions and both occur and survive naturalistically in nature. She was rehomed due to biting a child in the family. Yes, he requires a lot of exercise but the entire family is spoiled by his great temperament. The Havanese is the only dog breed that is native to Cuba. The point that the author was making was that they are partially albino and albinism comes with health problems. anyone with as much as a passing knowledge of animal genetics knows albinism (yes, that IS what gives it the white coat) renders ANY breed susceptible to genetic issues. Most people really dont know how intelligent Dobermans are , they learn so fast that it is sometime frighten. I think not.. after reading as much of your snarkiness that I could stomach. God bless. i did some research and the original dam did have a white and the male pup (yes male) was breed with sis litter mates to keep getting the white color. 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